If you recall as much as the butthurt fans like to say "I liked Marcel in season 1 because he used his ingenuity, charm etc" if my memory serves these same folks still found him annoying back then lol. It doesn't matter at all. Ok I can understand the venom killing them etc. She’s there for Klaus as a therapist, but only during his appointments. I for one was super angry when they stripped Alaric of his power which was a similar situation. The most recent user of the Jaw Titan is Falco. Lucien even proved to be much stronger than Klaus, the Original Hybrid, during their confrontations. Marcel was shown to also b… Marcel is weaker than Lucian atm, Lucian was so strong because he was protected by the elders, tbh magic was about to defeat Lucian alot of times untill the elders saved his poor ass. Esther was just a normal witch. Therefore while the Originals had this godlike status there was no incentive for them to change any of their ways. Charlie Michael Davis (CMD) has been a main character in TO since the beginning, and that has been clear. #10 AlphaQ. Fight to incap Odds are, the only reason she was able to create Alaric in a way that made him so much exponentially stronger is because she herself was a great deal stronger than when she originally cast her spell. Nah, i like it. That goes to Klaus, Kol, Freya, in that order. Short answer, fuck yes. Marcel was shown to also be stronger than the originals and Klaus, fighting them with ease but recently his strength seemed inferior to Lucien's, whether this is because Marcel was reluctant to fight or is simply inferior to Lucien due to being a younger vampire when turned or even both is unknown. The Hollow, because she did things that took Dahlia 1000 years to do even with the immense power she gathered. It was amazing to see him have the upper hand for once. It could also be a famous saying of a person on how they see eulogies. But when one of his was betrayed he took it. The same goes for Vincent, he was already a very powerful witch who was being backed by all of the ancestors of New Orleans. There's a good chance she just grew stronger since she never actually died and was just preserved. For literally all the seasons the big bad has always been some witch that's super op and as annoying as it was, it made sense because no other creature could physically best the originals. ... you'll find him in a little bit of a stronger position than where he was in season two," Davis continues. The entire Vampire Diaries universe, helmed by Julie Plec, is not without its controversial decisions, however. the new spell is something the elders have been working for centurys, using reverse engineering they manage to crack down the original spell used by Esther and give a lil extra something, its possible if you havent seen TVD you will realize Esther made a new vampire stronger than any original there. Lucien was most definitely stronger than Marcel is, as an Upgraded Original, due to most likely the age difference. So as you can imagine, there are a ton of fight scenes every single episode. By making Marcel stronger then them it takes away from the Originals lure. Any man who must say I am the king is no true king - Tywin Lannister. Now, it gets sort of annoying, like the roles are simply reversed. And due to his (relatively) more moral compass he is a great juxtaposition to his father. Period. I didn't like him until he save Hope. Now faster and stronger than both Finn and Elijah, Lucien quickly got the upper hand, biting Finn with a deadly werewolf bite. As they had seen it might makes right. I simply hate it. Down voted for pointing out the obvious. While Marcel & Lucien could be even(since we really don't know if their vampire strength was taken into account). Lucien is also 5 times Marcel's age and so he's stronger as a vampire, there's no reason that would change if they were both beasts. When the Originals were first introduced they were known as the old ones. So Lucien and Marcel died as strong vampires and came back much stronger than the originals who died as humans. If you dropped Stefan or Damon back in time to when they were first born, they'd be stronger by a good deal. Exactly! The universe of The Vampire Diaries is teeming with vampires, witches, and werewolves.Almost every character on the original show, as well as its two spin-offs, The Originals, and Legacies, are powerful in super-human ways.In fact, there’s so much power brimming among the various creatures that each new character seems to be more formidable than the last. Eulogy /Funeral Quotes: M - R This part of the site is dedicated to various remarks uttered by different people towards eulogy. (Davina even refer to Rebecca as one) the oldest, most powerful vampire in the world. Think about it. That's an order. They were original because there was no one else stronger, nor faster then them. She made normal vampires who grew into the monstrously strong people they are now. He wanted to be an upgrade in everyway. just like klaus does minus the massive amounts of charm that klaus has .its just annoying seeing him on screen.almost as annoying as seeing davina, Yea I'm mad as well. Upgraded Originals possess roughly the same powers befitting an Original vampire, but with a few modifications due to the nature of the spell that created them as well as the introduction of werewolf venom. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the TheOriginals community. It was more even, and you remember the difference of power between Lucien and klaus? He shouldn't be. Reviews: 0. No matter how old the Originals were always absurdly stronger and if they died you died. Marcellus "Marcel" Gerard is a protagonist/anti-hero in The Originals. Lucien would have slaughtered the Mikaelsons was it not for Freya. minato is stronger then most people. But it was refreshing to see the dynamic between the centuries old relationship change so drastically. I simply hate it. That is why people are reacting that way. Klaus is a hybrid. Press J to jump to the feed. I think Kol was a douche when he said to Marce "You're not a Mikaelson" or something like that, because, even though the originals didn't grow up with him, he grew up alongside the Originals. Now, normal Lucien would shit on normal Marcel. What made them interesting on The Vampire Diaries was that they were older, more powerful and more menacing than Stephan and Damon. If Marcel fights Rebekah or Finn, it won’t take him long to beat em up. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Honestly, Esther probably just didn't have the power back then. I don't have a problem with it. Super Strength:They are considerably stronger than any supernatural species seen thus far. Me too. The Originals focuses on the first family of virtually indestructible vampires, but Marcel Gerard is the strongest vampire on the series. It seems there's a new hybrid in town. Or even if they are more powerful the lead character can always find a way to trick them . A family of power-hungry thousand year old vampires look to take back the city that they built and dominate all those who have done them wrong. When it comes to hand to hand fights, or combats, Beasts (Marcel and Lucien) are stronger than the Originals. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. 0 Klaus feels that he should be in charge of the city because he is the stronger vampire and helped to build it up to what it is today decades and decades ago. I mean, Claire Holt and Nate Buzolic also get to play such powerful characters, but they're literally almost never around, and I don't think that's doing Marce justice. Yes that's fun for couple of episodes but for a long running show?? But now I just don't care about him at all. And it aint going nowhere. You could admire Gerard’s ingenuity. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Marcel keeps Klaus captive for five years before banishing the Original siblings from the city. By making Marcel stronger then them it takes away from the Originals lure. We saw Lucien one handed break Klaus' arms and bone dagger him with minimal effort. Lucien Marcel Tenn, Lucien M Tenn and Lucien N Tenn are some of the alias or nicknames that Lucien … It doesn't make the Originals any less badass and allows for the continuing character development for EVERYONE not just Marcel. CMD has been on literally all of the episodes in the show, busting his ass, and, for that, his character deserves to step out from the sidelines of supernatural mediocrity, and rise to power, 'cos you know he deserves it. That gets boring after about 2 seasons. Lucien explicitly said he didn't want to be a shoddy original version. I'm gonna say it. The only reason Lucien and Marcel are as strong as they are is probably because he was able to pour more energy into the spell than Esther was originally. Now its obvious he helps them not out of survival but love and loyalty. He doesn't have to come up with any plans to outsmart his opponents - just has to show up. Add to that being trained by 3 Originals, and you have quite a formidable foe. Imagine that Aurora take the beast serum and die like Marcel and Lucien. It's nice that great power like the Originals weild in the hands of someone who doesn't casually slaughter people. He is portrayed by Charles Michael Davis. But, how would the same spell produce a much stronger version when it was the same one used on TOs, only TOs have been around a lot longer at said strength, so should be stronger or atleast equal in strength. With Lucien's serum, Marcel is more than a match for the Original hybrid. However, it also depends on your opponent, as in who is against who? Each of them has used the Jaw Titan differently and some were stronger than others. The show is called the originals , not the beast! Elijah was always arrogant and that goes for ALL the Mikaelsons, Marcel being able to keep these assholes in check is required for the balance. Same for Vincent. What I really liked about marcel in the earlier season was that despite being weaker than the originals he used his wit and knowledge of the city to catch them off guard. It was clear who was superior, so mikel could be more skilled but Lucien has more strength, more speed, more reaction capability than him. A spin-off of The Vampire Diaries in development for CW. It's like a teenager son who was tired of being weaker than his daddy that he had to resort to steroids to get stronger lol. They weren't always as strong as they are today, though they were still nigh unkillable. when klaus was a bully to others he did with charm and panache but marcel is just a thug. Couldn't kill them without the White Oak Stake. While Andrew Lees' Lucien ... Marcel is in charge. 0. He was able to out smart them. Lucien reminded Klaus of who he is and it’s exciting to see the old bad Klaus come out again. It just means the show is centered around them. That status quo gets stagnant and doesn't allow for the character development that allows you to now empathize with them. I agree, with you to an extent. He just seemed more likeable and you wanted him to succeed. Everyone really needs to just let this go. And certainly not called KEEPING THE ORIGINALS IN CHECK! In the beginning, it was entertaining, seeing Marcel manipulate, blackmail, lie, and charm his way to safety. Before moving to Lucien's current city of Fort Lauderdale, FL, Lucien lived in Lake Worth FL, Rogers AR and Dublin OH. In the words of Klaus, "Marcellus is family". Just because he isn't an Original doesn't mean he's not part of the Original Family. so yeah since the season as comming to an end they had to make Marcel all powerful, in … It would have been so much better if they just kept Marcel as a regular vampire because it really doesn't add anything to the show beside Marcel seem to have a bigger ego, and it makes me dislike him more then I did in season one. Yes. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Any guilt they felt for their actions (Gina, Celeste, etc) didn't really matter cause "eh I'm the biggest and baddest, so I make the rules". Lucien beast was ok because he had a legitimate reason for wanting them dead but Marcel beast made no sense. ! I find Marcel to be a very intriguing character, and he is one of the oldest in New Orleans, so of course he is stronger than most vampires. I didn't like Marcel when he was first introduced on the show. Instant conflict. This was shown when lucien just walked off being hit by the 1000 cut shuriken. Lucian and Marciel just threw TOs around like rag dolls. It makes sense really because rightfully so we saw him as a non-threat. So true. You just knew that any "rival" vampires (yes even Lucien) weren't a real problem at all. On The Originals, the Mikaelsons are the oldest vampires in the world. Klaus’s trial scene was amazing, possibly one of the best episodes in the series. Summary: Lucien Tenn is 52 years old today because Lucien's birthday is on 08/26/1968. After dying, Marcel's brother, Porco, inherited the titan and learned the details of how Marcel died. When the Originals were first introduced they were known as the old ones. LOVE that Marcel has the power now , he is the only one who knows how to rule the world. Marcel being weaker and constantly being threatened by the Originals was getting old. He's just not interesting. Yes. It may not be something that directly tackles a certain eulogy but the whole idea of eulogy in general. Followers. There's not enough room on the show for Marcel and his ego. However, the Jaw Titan has always been one of … On the vampire diaries there never was a character stronger then Damon, and Stefan. The show is called The Originals, not the Marcel show. People that are mad that he's "stronger" are focused on the wrong things. Lucien was shown to be much stronger than Elijah and Finn when they fought. The spell amplifies strength, so how strong you are depends on how strong you were before turning, Mikael was stronger than all his children therefore he was much stronger than them when they became vampires.. but what people forget is he can cast a jutsu faster than anyone and he has the fastest relfexes and crazy good sensory ability … I liked him better when he was weaker. Compare that to Klaus can ALMOST go toe to toe with Marcel; although AGAIN I wish they would show Klaus going full wolf and see how things are in that situation? I want him dead even before becoming beast. Don’t get me wrong, Marcel isn’t my favorite character. Couldn't kill them without killing all the Vampires they sired. The writers had written themselves into a corner with the combination of absurd physical advantage and a sire bond. He's stronger, faster, more durable and a bite that could even kill Klaus. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. A spin-off of The Vampire Diaries in development for CW. (Davina even refer to Rebecca as one) the oldest, most powerful vampire in the world. There is a very big power struggle between Marcel and Klaus. It would be as when marcel fought mohinder, marcel had more fight skills but still he couldn't do that much against him. Cookies help us deliver our Services. User Lists: 0. That's not a request. He is what he is. The reality is Lucien > Marcel, yes Lucien is dead, yes Marcel actually beat the mikaelsons but Lucien was undone by hubris and Freya's batshit crazy magic that wasn't available to use on Marcel. A family of power-hungry thousand year old vampires look to take back the city that they built and dominate all those who have done them wrong. Although he helps them protect Hope from the Hollow, refuses to forgive Klaus for Davina's death and the two come to blows. Instead of Marcel having the upper hand because he can slaughter them anytime he wishes, he and Klaus battle for the upper hand through their wit. But you either need to come up with more menacing villains or create conflict that has real stakes (e.g., Marcel becoming stronger) if you want to have a 5 season story on them. Marcel is weaker than Lucian atm, Lucian was so strong because he was protected by the elders, tbh magic was about to defeat Lucian alot of times untill the elders saved his poor ass. Yikes, apparently this is a heated topic. It makes sense that the next time around, she would be able to make something over 1000 times stronger than her original spell could create. 1. Folks still saw a baby vamp and a teenager kill one but nobody cried foul then lol. yes. Kostya from the Night Watch series. Lucien was by far Binet-Valmer's most successful book in France, getting released in no fewer than 22 printings between its first edition in 1910 and 1919. I don't care. We didn't sign up for the perfect balance. Who knew that when The Vampire Diaries began at the height of the vampire romance craze in the late-2000s it would birth an entire franchise of interconnected spin-offs that even a decade later show no signs of stopping. Klaus can't die period. Usually on shows such as this no other character is more powerful then the lead character. No, it's not annoying at all. Lucien will most-likely obliterate Peter in almost all of the rounds considering that Lucien was an "upgraded Original," making him a much bigger threat than Spider-Man. i mean him being the beast and being able to just defeat the originals and just spank Elijah around in this latest episode bothers me.i always liked it when marcell was weaker and had to be a bit charming and careful when talking to the originals and now he is just a brazen ass who jumps headfist into every confrontation like i will kill you. Now the enemies that in-universe had no chance, at least have some semblance of one and it allows for suspense and better storytelling. I think it's silly that Marcel is stronger then the Originals. At least not until the Originals was introduced. EXACTLY.before he had to use finesse and his intelligence to defeat or avoid the originals but now he is just a big muscled bully. Being a far more powerful witch, backed by nature to destroy the monsters she'd made? Klaus for a moment felt weak and went to his therapist Cami, but Cami is stronger than ever and sent him packing. Marcel being the strongest member of the family now allows for the development of relationship between them that never got the chance to come to fruition. Hell he didn't seek the power. so yeah since the season as comming to an end they had to make Marcel all powerful, in theory he is unkillable but not unstoppable. The show was running into a serious problem before because the Originals were ridiculously overpowered. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the TheOriginals community. If they made Marcel simply as strong as the originals, it would’ve made for a more complex story. But at the end of season 3 Damon and Stefan found a way to stop him. just my 2 cents here, the spell Esther used to create the originals was a copy of the spell Silas and the other witches from that time used, a poorly one. She was just sitting in a coffin for 1000 years, watching everything the Mikaelsons did. but people don’t get this because unlike hashirama he doesn’t use his chakra to create mountan blasting jutsu but he uses it for speed .incase he needs power he has sage mode but generally he beats most characters in a flash. They were original because there was no one else stronger, nor faster then them. 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